The profound limits of a "deal" between China (PRC) and the Holy See: Cardinal Joseph Zen (HK)

...but in order to enter in China (from HK) he needs a governative permit

Briefly:
- the control of the Government on the local ecclesial hierarchy is not eliminated: the procedure through which the local bishops are selected for the following papal approval is manipulable.
- this kind of dialogue, in the old style of the Vatican "Ostpolitik" (search for a "modus non moriendi"[cit. Cardinal Casaroli]), is a surrender: a full independency is a core character of Church's identity, i.e.  is what makes the Church real and not fake.

The complete video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHQc7rQeY_U

The "ius publicum ecclesiasticum"studies the relationships between Church and States, from the Church's point of view. The first problem was the Lutheran reform (civil authority's power on the Church, devaluation of the Church's hierarchic structure, etc.)